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		<title>Comment on iTunes Tutorial for Mom! by miafan2010</title>
		<link>http://juliabrewster.ca/2009/06/18/itunes_tutorial/#comment-660</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2012 18:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Why? by Matthew</title>
		<link>http://juliabrewster.ca/2010/07/04/why/#comment-586</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jan 2011 21:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot; I believe that it would be a welcome addition to the ALA accredited degrees coming out of library schools across North America if all graduates were required to take an oath to uphold intellectual freedom and equitable access to information.&quot;

I agree.  I remember a discussion in library school about librarianship as a profession:  what is considered a profession and do we measure up?  This is one issue we fail on and I disagree with Gillian&#039;s comment...  The majority of librarians I&#039;ve worked with do seem to feel that being a librarian is more than a job.  When I go home at night, or if I&#039;m between positions, I&#039;m STILL a librarian.  

No, librarianship doesn&#039;t do the things that other professions do.  But it could.  And it should.  Or rather WE should.

If we mislead patrons, no one may notice the difference.  Right away.  Or directly.  But it does have an impact and it could have a huge impact.  Reaction time or degree can&#039;t be the measure of worth.  It&#039;s the value of the service that counts.  Everything everyone does is reliant on information and we play an important role supporting it.

I compare librarians with doctors and lawyers AND teachers and social workers.  We&#039;re all professionals.  And I think using that label can help if only we actually used it to guide what we do and how we train.  At least we need more promotion of what we do and how it is important.  I fear that our importance is being drowned out by how &quot;easy&quot; getting information through the Internet is.  Sometimes I think that we&#039;re only surviving through social inertia.  lol

I became a librarian because I like information, organization and technology.  I never thought about the &quot;professional&quot; aspects of being a librarian when I signed up but I certainly do now.  Of course, being an academic librarian, it also blends in with my thoughts about our status as faculty:  very similar to professions like medicine and law and education where, in academic institutions, professionals are called on to become academics as well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; I believe that it would be a welcome addition to the ALA accredited degrees coming out of library schools across North America if all graduates were required to take an oath to uphold intellectual freedom and equitable access to information.&#8221;</p>
<p>I agree.  I remember a discussion in library school about librarianship as a profession:  what is considered a profession and do we measure up?  This is one issue we fail on and I disagree with Gillian&#8217;s comment&#8230;  The majority of librarians I&#8217;ve worked with do seem to feel that being a librarian is more than a job.  When I go home at night, or if I&#8217;m between positions, I&#8217;m STILL a librarian.  </p>
<p>No, librarianship doesn&#8217;t do the things that other professions do.  But it could.  And it should.  Or rather WE should.</p>
<p>If we mislead patrons, no one may notice the difference.  Right away.  Or directly.  But it does have an impact and it could have a huge impact.  Reaction time or degree can&#8217;t be the measure of worth.  It&#8217;s the value of the service that counts.  Everything everyone does is reliant on information and we play an important role supporting it.</p>
<p>I compare librarians with doctors and lawyers AND teachers and social workers.  We&#8217;re all professionals.  And I think using that label can help if only we actually used it to guide what we do and how we train.  At least we need more promotion of what we do and how it is important.  I fear that our importance is being drowned out by how &#8220;easy&#8221; getting information through the Internet is.  Sometimes I think that we&#8217;re only surviving through social inertia.  lol</p>
<p>I became a librarian because I like information, organization and technology.  I never thought about the &#8220;professional&#8221; aspects of being a librarian when I signed up but I certainly do now.  Of course, being an academic librarian, it also blends in with my thoughts about our status as faculty:  very similar to professions like medicine and law and education where, in academic institutions, professionals are called on to become academics as well.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Creating and Managing an Online Identity For Job Seekers by mjecclestone</title>
		<link>http://juliabrewster.ca/2010/12/20/creating-and-managing-an-online-identity/#comment-585</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jan 2011 20:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hai Julia -- great to see the blog being reinvented! I re-added the link to my blog roll -- now your traffic will really go through the roof (haha, no. I get about one click-through a day from my blog). Yay blogs!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hai Julia &#8212; great to see the blog being reinvented! I re-added the link to my blog roll &#8212; now your traffic will really go through the roof (haha, no. I get about one click-through a day from my blog). Yay blogs!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Moi by Jeff Wong</title>
		<link>http://juliabrewster.ca/about/#comment-584</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff Wong]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jan 2011 13:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Julia,  It&#039;s not that bad living in Ontario!  I lived there for 5 years.   Have you visited Quebec City ever ?  It&#039;s the most beautiful place in Canada!   I have to say every place in Canada has its own charm.  Unless you have explored every place of Canada,  never say never !   See you in February - your big day !  LOL !

Jeff (Who has known you for 11 years from Hong Kong)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julia,  It&#8217;s not that bad living in Ontario!  I lived there for 5 years.   Have you visited Quebec City ever ?  It&#8217;s the most beautiful place in Canada!   I have to say every place in Canada has its own charm.  Unless you have explored every place of Canada,  never say never !   See you in February &#8211; your big day !  LOL !</p>
<p>Jeff (Who has known you for 11 years from Hong Kong)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why? by Jules</title>
		<link>http://juliabrewster.ca/2010/07/04/why/#comment-553</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jules]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2010 15:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think you&#039;re right Leigh, we should be focused on education. And the constant comparison to other professions isn&#039;t really helping, in fact it detracts from us actually being able to do our job. It does seem that we spend a lot of time wondering why people don&#039;t understand what we do is valuable, rather than actually doing WHAT is valuable so that we can visibly demonstrate it.  I do not think that we have a monopoly on intellectual freedom, copyright etc - however I don&#039;t see why librarians can&#039;t play an important role in lobbying our law makers when they are coming up with such laws. I do believe that we are positioned in such a way that makes our comments and knowledge valuable to these law makers. 

Gillian - good point about the professional ethics course. I don&#039;t believe there was one offered at my school and I would be curious if there are any offered at other schools.  A foundation is definitely important before swearing an oath would be of any consequence. 

Overall I struggle with the &quot;professionalization&quot; of librarianship and am leaning more and more towards forgetting about that side of things and just doing my job :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;re right Leigh, we should be focused on education. And the constant comparison to other professions isn&#8217;t really helping, in fact it detracts from us actually being able to do our job. It does seem that we spend a lot of time wondering why people don&#8217;t understand what we do is valuable, rather than actually doing WHAT is valuable so that we can visibly demonstrate it.  I do not think that we have a monopoly on intellectual freedom, copyright etc &#8211; however I don&#8217;t see why librarians can&#8217;t play an important role in lobbying our law makers when they are coming up with such laws. I do believe that we are positioned in such a way that makes our comments and knowledge valuable to these law makers. </p>
<p>Gillian &#8211; good point about the professional ethics course. I don&#8217;t believe there was one offered at my school and I would be curious if there are any offered at other schools.  A foundation is definitely important before swearing an oath would be of any consequence. </p>
<p>Overall I struggle with the &#8220;professionalization&#8221; of librarianship and am leaning more and more towards forgetting about that side of things and just doing my job <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Why? by Leigh</title>
		<link>http://juliabrewster.ca/2010/07/04/why/#comment-552</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Leigh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2010 15:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are certainly few (if any) consequences in librarianship, compared to law or medicine. If I mislead a patron at the reference desk, is anyone going to know the difference? We are a service profession, but what distinguishes us from other services? I think it is because libraries are viewed as providing a &#039;free&#039; service (though it is certainly not free) that we are not held to rigid standards. If someone gets &#039;good enough&#039; service at a library they are happy.

And I&#039;m not sure we even have the monoply on &#039;intellectual freedom&#039;, copyright, access - these are highly dependent on our law makers anyway. We are dependent on government for funding - and we know how quickly funds (and thus access) can be taken away.

I think the &#039;purpose&#039; of librarianship should be education-focused. Rather than compare ourselves constantly to lawyers and doctors, I think we are more comparable to teachers and social workers - but this is less glamorous, right?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are certainly few (if any) consequences in librarianship, compared to law or medicine. If I mislead a patron at the reference desk, is anyone going to know the difference? We are a service profession, but what distinguishes us from other services? I think it is because libraries are viewed as providing a &#8216;free&#8217; service (though it is certainly not free) that we are not held to rigid standards. If someone gets &#8216;good enough&#8217; service at a library they are happy.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;m not sure we even have the monoply on &#8216;intellectual freedom&#8217;, copyright, access &#8211; these are highly dependent on our law makers anyway. We are dependent on government for funding &#8211; and we know how quickly funds (and thus access) can be taken away.</p>
<p>I think the &#8216;purpose&#8217; of librarianship should be education-focused. Rather than compare ourselves constantly to lawyers and doctors, I think we are more comparable to teachers and social workers &#8211; but this is less glamorous, right?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why? by Gillian</title>
		<link>http://juliabrewster.ca/2010/07/04/why/#comment-551</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gillian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2010 14:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s a job. One I ethically agree with, but it&#039;s no calling. I don&#039;t serve a higher purpose and I don&#039;t necessarily identify with the ideals of librarianship (although I don&#039;t disagree with them either). I got into librarianship because I had an undergrad in the humanities and an interest in academic with an aversion to starting my career in my mid-thirties. I stayed with my job because it&#039;s mentally challenging, has great hours and job security. 

Do library schools even require a course either in professional ethics or in the broader social impacts of librarianship? without that foundation are you doing anymore than paying lip service to these ideals with some form of oath? 

Further, is it useful to take an oath you can&#039;t possibly be accused of breaking? Do librarians associated with the Harper government get kicked out of the profession because their government has broken all the rules of freedom to information in some people&#039;s eyes?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a job. One I ethically agree with, but it&#8217;s no calling. I don&#8217;t serve a higher purpose and I don&#8217;t necessarily identify with the ideals of librarianship (although I don&#8217;t disagree with them either). I got into librarianship because I had an undergrad in the humanities and an interest in academic with an aversion to starting my career in my mid-thirties. I stayed with my job because it&#8217;s mentally challenging, has great hours and job security. </p>
<p>Do library schools even require a course either in professional ethics or in the broader social impacts of librarianship? without that foundation are you doing anymore than paying lip service to these ideals with some form of oath? </p>
<p>Further, is it useful to take an oath you can&#8217;t possibly be accused of breaking? Do librarians associated with the Harper government get kicked out of the profession because their government has broken all the rules of freedom to information in some people&#8217;s eyes?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sad Times for Virtual Reference by Jules</title>
		<link>http://juliabrewster.ca/2010/07/02/sad-times-for-virtual-reference/#comment-550</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jules]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jul 2010 17:28:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for clarifying Karen! After our talk yesterday I was going to post an update - you beat me too it :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for clarifying Karen! After our talk yesterday I was going to post an update &#8211; you beat me too it <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Sad Times for Virtual Reference by Karen</title>
		<link>http://juliabrewster.ca/2010/07/02/sad-times-for-virtual-reference/#comment-549</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Karen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jul 2010 17:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just to clarify, the public library side of AskAway is closed. The post-secondary side is still running, as the funding structure is different and the colleges/universities in BC made a financial commitment to continue the service.

It is horribly shortsighted to eliminate services like this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to clarify, the public library side of AskAway is closed. The post-secondary side is still running, as the funding structure is different and the colleges/universities in BC made a financial commitment to continue the service.</p>
<p>It is horribly shortsighted to eliminate services like this.</p>
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		<title>Comment on One down! by Lic</title>
		<link>http://juliabrewster.ca/2010/03/27/one-down/#comment-529</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 May 2010 12:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wish I could have gone to this! I still don&#039;t really understand why people use twitter (I also haven&#039;t tried it, but I can&#039;t figure out why I would want to). An actual presentation on what its advantages are would have been cool. Makes me think I should look into things at the public library here! I rarely go - last time Scott and I went, we didn&#039;t even know how to sign a book out, and now they have chips and things so you just set a stack of books on the table and the computer already knows what they all are! It&#039;s so crazy. haha..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish I could have gone to this! I still don&#8217;t really understand why people use twitter (I also haven&#8217;t tried it, but I can&#8217;t figure out why I would want to). An actual presentation on what its advantages are would have been cool. Makes me think I should look into things at the public library here! I rarely go &#8211; last time Scott and I went, we didn&#8217;t even know how to sign a book out, and now they have chips and things so you just set a stack of books on the table and the computer already knows what they all are! It&#8217;s so crazy. haha..</p>
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